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phpBB or SMF

Greetings to all.

I am a noob when it comes to forum software. In fact, I have just started doing some initial information gathering when I cam upon your site.

I am considering phpBB and SMF as the most likely candidates. I was gobsmacked to read that these two camps are in the process of combining forces to release SimplephpBB next year! It sounds like my decision has been made for me....almost.

Presuming that I choose not to wait until the release of SimplephpBB, would I be better off starting with the more powerful SMF or the simpler phpBB?

I am eager to hear what those who are more experienced/knowledgeable have to say!

Thanks

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Hi,

If you are a noob in forum software, I would then suggest you to try SMF, as its way to administrate forum access is really more user friendly.

And, obviously, do not wait to much time for SimplePhpBB Wink

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i must say .. drupal forum cms doesnt look that good Sad

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Re: phpBB or SMF

I agree that a vanilla drupal is not comparable to any other classic forum software, but with the right modules, it is really more powerful

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Re: phpBB or SMF

I have nothing but problems with SMF. It is not user friendly for noobs. There are missing admin buttons, log in issues (not recognizing user names and passwords that have been confirmed in emails), the instructions for use are not user-friendly--all in all very frustrating.

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Hi,

ak wrote:
I have nothing but problems with SMF. It is not user friendly for noobs.

At the opposite, I would argue that it is really easy to use. My friend had no computer skill and he was able to install it ALONE, without any knowledge of internet, web and even database. I just read some docs about meaning of Mysql and other stuff but he did it alone.

ak wrote:
There are missing admin buttons, log in issues (not recognizing user names and passwords that have been confirmed in emails), the instructions for use are not user-friendly--all in all very frustrating.

I cannot answer you because i never encountered this kind of log in issues. Maybe you should report them to SMF team?

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I'd choose phpBB. I find it easy enough to install, customize and use. I've never used SMF, so I can't really judge it.

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I would choose SMF...it never got any problem with it.

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Could you extend your argument a little bit? Wink

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Indeed, I'm neither able to understand your problem, sorry man!

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PhpBB2 is also very good for beginners. Wink The admin panel is really simple and you can learn the basics with phpBB2 very fast.

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Yes, but it's a little bit outdated, so you should migrate your old forum to PhpBB3

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MyBB has really progressed and has easily passed both of them. A lack of plugin system from phpBB and a lack of a staff on SMF's case is the main reasons why I've been picking MyBB if I'm not using my IPB.

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burton78stephens wrote:
I would choose SMF...it never got any problem with it.

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I have had phpBB2,phpBB3,SMF 1.1. software versions as Administrator.

phpBB2 is old and out of date.There are no new security patches available anymore.It is a risk to continue with it.Yes it is simple and works fine.In a limited way.

phpBB3 is much nicer..., in some ways and far worse in other ways.Installing a mod can be horrible and the Administration Control Panel (ACP) permission settings are tedious.

One of the features I liked was the ability for an administrator to do,was be able to adjust a members account and status right from their User Control Panel.No need to be in the ACP at all.

They have a very nice registration board,where you can weed out the miserable registrants awaiting activation and stop spambots.

If I had to chose.I would chose SMF since it is easier to administrate and does have a very nice package manager system.

They have a lot of good features for security and even control what a newbie can do for a limited time.

But.....,

Too many mods works only in the default theme.Must make some edits to make them work in other themes.It would not tell you that when you successfully upload and installed a mod.It simply does not show up in alternate themes.I hated that.

The default theme is pure ugliness in the 1.1 version.But much improved in the 2.0 version.

They have several portals available,to download and activate in the Administration panel.IF you like the standard portal set ups.I think they are better than phpBB's.

If you think SMF is for you.Try the 2.0 version.I think it is better than the old 1.1 version that is still getting support.Despite that the 2.0 version is not a true software rewrite.It is vast improvement of the default theme that is the main difference.

It is good software overall.

Personally I prefer myBB much more.That is what I now use.

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el canadiano wrote:
MyBB has really progressed and has easily passed both of them. A lack of plugin system from phpBB and a lack of a staff on SMF's case is the main reasons why I've been picking MyBB if I'm not using my IPB.

I agree that myBB is much better in uploading and installing plug ins than phpBB3.But SMF is even better in that regard.

SMF has a staff plug in for version 1.1 I do not know what it is like in version 2.0.I assume they got wise and made it default there.It should be standard in major software packages.The Administrator/Owner should be able to shut it off if he wanted to hide the staff list.

I agree that myBB is a better overall forum software.It certainly fits my needs better.The posting box is much better since it is updated and use updated bbc tags such as links.You can even make new ones from the ACP!

Drupal here has a good post box.They use the very nice URL and IMAGE tags.Much better than the long out of data SMF and phpbb's series.Where you have to edit them correctly for it to work properly.I hated that.

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SMF is the best for 3 years i have no major problem.. Big smile

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I vote for phpBB Laughing out loud

It is more widely used, has a bigger community (bigger than SMF), large modifications database (so features are endless), many styles available. I use phpBB 3.0.8 (latest version when this was posted) and it works great, plus the upcoming phpBB 3.1 is going to be even better with the upcoming HOOKs feature (modifying the board is the downside of phpBB, I don't suggest using AutoMod for phpBB Tongue)

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I'd go with PhpBB.Its user friendly with noobs.About SMF ,no idea.

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I can't help but post to this thread. I've operated a forum for close to a year-and-a-half now, started out with SMF and am in the process of moving to a different software.

I keep seeing people say one is better than the other without giving a reason why they feel that way. I'm going to explain in detail just why I am wanting to move away from SMF as well as address a couple of other things people have said.

First off, SMF's admin panel is somewhat user-friendly but after months of using it, I can say it also is designed like a grenade went off behind the scenes. Parts of certain features are here, other parts there. It absolutely isn't streamlined at all. It took me months to find out how to set certain things while other parts of those things were easily found.

I have also had major, major issues with log-ins, errors, etc. I have posted on SMF's forum multiple times but no one seems to have any idea what has gone wrong. Latest thing was the forum started eating the attachments. I believe these problems may be due to something gone haywire in the database before I took over the site. My question is: what went wrong in the first place?

Don't be fooled by the mods for SMF. Yes they are super easy to install and there are MANY of them and they include just about any bell or whistle a person could hope to throw at their forum. HOWEVER, they can create massive conflicts with each other bringing an otherwise seemingly healthy forum to its knees. I set up a test forum for installing mods I wanted to try because I didn't want to risk my main forum. One mod would install fine, another would install fine, then the third one conflicted with the first one. If I went back and uninstalled the first two, number three would install then I could install number one without problems but number two might have a fit. The apparently easy solution would be to just uninstall the mods and be done with them, but every mod installs a bit of itself to the database so each one uninstalled has to be cleaned out at that level and the only way to make sure it's gone is to restore the database. Some conflicts with mods aren't apparent right away, either. I had one mod that was perfectly fine on my test forum, or so I thought, then a couple of weeks after installing it to my main forum a user discovered that the member page was no longer displaying members but instead giving up a white page. By that time it was too late to restore the database.

SMF has a lot of wonderful features built into it but it IS lacking in a few areas that could cause people problems. There's no way without a mod to have attachments show up in-line in posts. Threads can't be bookmarked. The list goes on and on. The Simple Portal mod is awesome and creates a very nice content manager and as far as I could tell worked very well as a stand-alone mod.

Now I'll address the "themes" designed for SMF. They're super easy to install, just like mods. Again, though, they can lead to problems. If a theme isn't properly designed, it will cause massive amounts of errors. Many themes are missing major components needed for the site, like a couple I really liked had the info for telling users they had new private messages removed so members must click the button for the PMs just to check if they have new messages. I could go on and on with the list of problems I found in the themes.

phpBB has a much better structure with their "styles" in that they can be completely demoed on the website instead of having to download and install.

I find that phpBB has many features that would require mods for SMF. However, it also lacks a few things that SMF has or I've just yet to find those things. It does, however, handle attachments VERY much better than SMF, in that they may still be at the bottom of a thread, but a description by the author can be placed with each one. In the type of forum I run, this is very important.

Managing smilies in SMF is a breeze (and my members do love smilies) and phpBB is a bit more labor intensive. I also prefer the way groups and permissions work in SMF over phpBB.

phpBB's admin panel is a lot more streamlined than SMF, which makes it bunches easier to use, but at the same time it can cause a person to run in a lot of circles while trying to get things set up, but at least it's circles instead of zig-zags like SMF causes.

Both forums have advantages and disadvantages and the answer to which one is best isn't simple. Download and install both of them to your server (it can be done simultaneously, creating the databases and doing the installation takes maybe a half-hour each) then dig in and find out which one suits your needs the best.

Also, remember that when it comes to forum administration, you ARE at some point going to have to get your hands dirty so learning at least a little bit of CSS coding and following tutorials on how to add a link somewhere are good things.

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I would choose phpBB. It is relatively simple and functional.

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I think PhpBB good than SMF, but SMF earse to user. I like use PhpBB.

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I think that phpbb has allot more addons and hacks than SMF. I use phpbb for all my forums..

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Yes. I think you did very well. If the forums are free and more convenient for members of the best!

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I agree that myBB is a better overall forum software.It certainly fits my needs better.The posting box is much better since it is updated and use updated bbc tags such as links.You can even make new ones from the ACP!

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What a stupid question!
SMF, of course.

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i like PhpBB2 , thanks for information

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punBB is a great one. It is very lightweight. The only problem is that it lacks importing for most forums. And its documentation is not ideal.

I like MyBB a lot as well.

I prefer MyBB > punBB > SMF > phpBB > vanillaforums

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I keep seeing people say one is better than the other without giving a reason why they feel that way. I'm going to explain in detail just why I am wanting to move away from SMF as well as address a couple of other things people have said.

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I like use PhpBB Smile too

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PhpBB has a fair bit more support and content, but SMF is easier to use, and not without fur or content and has a lot of 3rd party add-ons, which finds its safer and better with larger loads members of execution threads.

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Both are fine but I think SMF is the best for use than both.

They are easy to access and not make the error easily.

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PhpBB is a best forum I had ever used it is simple and easy.

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